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06 October 2007

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--- Log opened Sat Oct 06 00:00:54 2007
00:01 <****> wtf? you can't reinstall a package from aptitude's graphical frontend?
00:02 <****> maddash: you can, it's L
00:02 <****> maddash: hit ? if you forget
00:02 <****> dondelelcaro: that's not in any of the menus
00:03 <****> maddash: it's in the online help
00:03 <****> argh
00:03 <****> dondelelcaro: thanks
00:03 <****> maddash: and that's a bug in vsftpd's postrm, because Dependencies aren't required to be present during purge
00:03 <****> (or removal)
00:03 <****> expecting anything but Essential: yes packages to be there is buggy
00:04 <****> hello every body
00:04 <****> dondelelcaro: yes, I know. I never had update-inetd, and BOTH vsftpd's preinst and postrm scripts required update-inetd -- how stupid is that?
00:04 <****> someone use accounting table with freeradius ? it just i don't find the schema of this table ... :( ?
00:04 <****> maddash: huh; well, hopefully someone filed a bug about it
00:10 <****> hmm... let's say i want to use stable (because i like to have security updates and don't need the new fancy features of program X) but need an app that doesn't exist for stable... would you recommend to apt-pin it from testing, or use a backport?
00:11 <****> ("X" meaning "insert program name here", not "X Window System")
00:11 <****> backport is preferable if it exists, obviously
00:12 <****> security updates are not applied to backports are they?
00:12 <****> not by the stable security team, btu they would get any updates that testing version of the app would get, including security updates
00:14 <****> hm ok
00:16 <****> nico__: you can either use backports from backports.org or make your own. /msg dpkg backports.org /msg dpkg simple sid backport
00:16 <****> nico__: in the latter case, you would be responsible for doing your own security support by upgrading to a newer release from sid if needed.
00:17 <****> nico__: testing has security updates to
00:18 <****> why do they use "etch-backports" as the branch name instead of "stable-backports"? if i understood correctly, the latter is better to keep the system up to date with "stable" even after it doesn't mean "etch" anymore, isn't it?
00:18 <****> but there's no guarantee testing and stable will comingle nicely, even with pinning. you're better off using backports
00:18 <****> yes, stable+testing names change when a new release is of age.
00:18 <****> Supaplex, yup i've read that (though i've read they are kinda lagging behind stable) but i didn't know that the backports got the same security updates than testing
00:19 <****> nico__: when lenny becomes stable, packages in etch-backports will be incompatible with lenny (just as they are now) so the packages have to be etch-backports not stable-backports.
00:19 <****> I'm not sure how backports competes with security updates.
00:21 <****> themill, oh i see... but it doesn't cause any problem that i mix "etch" backports with "stable" debian repos does it? (i replaced all "etch" by "stable" in my sources.list)
00:21 * Supaplex waits for his fresh chroot install of sid to upgrade
00:21 * karsten wonders where one gets fresh chroots ...
00:21 <****> ... as opposed to the canned, frozen, and dry varieties.
00:21 <****> (except for the backports line which is not in the sources.list yet, it'll keep "etch" for that one)
00:21 <****> nico__: you should stick with "etch" not "stable" in sources.list to save yourself nasty surprises when lenny becomes stable.
00:21 <****> karsten: I spun it today, vs using one I've had around hehe
00:22 <****> nico__: there are lot of people who had "stable" not "sarge" in their sources.list who got a very nasty surprise when etch was released.
00:22 <****> ah :-/
00:22 <****> I normally use samba to give my windows boxen direct application-level access to files on my debian boxen. By application-level, I mean, I can open \\box\user\somefile.txt in notepad, and save it, etc, and it JustWorks. Well... Is there another way to do this? I read about a non-free windows app called sftpdrive.. But, is there a free alternative?
00:22 <****> themill, what's the point of having both?
00:22 <****> (i mean a "stable" and a "whatever is the name of the current stable")
00:23 <****> Sebboh: you could map a samba share to a drive letter
00:23 * karsten wonders why his Knoppix system's now frozen after a large rsync transfer...
00:23 <****> nico__: the temporal names are important for indicating what the state of play is while the release names are important for indicating an actual release. The temporal names used to be more useful as it used to be as simple as apt-get dist-upgrade; it's just not any more.
00:23 <****> themill, can i use "testing" or do i have to replace it by the current codename too?
00:23 <****> Supaplex, sorry, that's not really what I'm looking for at all. I want to not use samba at all.
00:24 <****> Sebboh: you can't usually use Notepad to edit files with Unix line endings
00:24 <****> you'd need to use Vim
00:24 <****> karsten: because you didn't use debian live? :)
00:24 <****> which kernel does etch come with?
00:24 <****> Supaplex: Hrm. There's a thought.
00:24 <****> antler: Linux ;-)
00:24 <****> DocPlatypus, thanks for the tip. My question is about file sharing technology, not dos/unix linefeeds.
00:24 <****> s
00:24 <****> themill, uh wait i don't need testing in the sources.list anymore... if i don't do pinning
00:24 <****> nico__: you could stay with "testing" always, but you'd probably want to stick with lenny when it first releases anyway, as testing can be pretty turbulent just after a release.
00:24 <****> Sebboh: ok. but why sftp vs samba for a windows client?
00:24 <****> karsten: how about a numeric answer?
00:25 <****> What command do you use to make sure an image is copied correctly?
00:25 <****> and yeah you're looking at running Samba on the GNU/Linux box
00:25 <****> antler: 42
00:25 <****> antler: 42
00:25 <****> ok. thanks
00:25 <****> antler: 2.6.18
00:25 <****> themill: thanks
00:25 <****> antler: 3.14159 ?
00:25 <****> penguin: an iso image?
00:26 <****> hey guys, I just downloaded and installed debian 4.0r1 amd64 via netinst cd image, that went well, and now im kind of stuck, I know what I need to so to fix this problem in other linux distros, but debian seems to be enough different, im confused -- the problem is that scanimage -L run as root can detect the scanner, but scanimage -L non-root can not. I cant find the debian equal to the devfs.conf file so that my scanner devic
00:26 <****> e is created at boot with the right user perms, what Im ai missing?
00:26 <****> okay, I'm off the wall this afternoon.
00:26 <****>windows without samab?
00:26 <****> an iso image
00:26 <****> !simple sid backports
00:26 <****>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resulting debs.
00:26 <****> cksum or md5sum?
00:26 <****> penguin: md5sum yourfile.iso
00:26 <****> Sebboh: maybe an NFS client on the Windows box, can't say I like much though
00:27 <****> penguin: and compare that to the md5 listed on the page that you downloaded it from.
00:27 <****> antler: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#s-kernel-changes
00:27 <****> antler: Or RTFIM.
00:27 <****> Hello. How can I read the UUID of a file system from shell (if I don't have /usr/bin/vol_id)? Is there a program in e2tools?
00:27 <****> that's fraught with problems, Unix is inherently case-sensitive and Windows is completely case-insensitive
00:27 <****> DocPlatypus, .. yes, nfs. might be worse than samba though. :)
00:27 <****> rance: are you in the group "scanner"?
00:27 <****> DocPlatypus: Not strictly true.
00:28 <****> vlt: vol_id(8) ?
00:28 <****> maybe in Vista that's *finally* fixed, I haven't kept score with what each version of Windows has
00:28 <****> gee, i've just downloaded debian CD1 for amd64, and still can't boot from it
00:28 <****> probably not, but thats what I was trying to check on, I couldnt even find the device file to see how it was created
00:28 <****> DocPlatypus: Widnows *is* case sensitive in creating directory entries, but is insensitive in accessing them, and only allows a single instance of a given case-squashed name of existing.
00:28 <****>
00:28 <****> Sebboh: there are nfs clients for windoze
00:28 <****> themill: if all i need to do is add myself to the scanner group, then consider it done
00:29 <****> karsten: right, as a practical matter, that's case-insensitive
00:29 <****> rance: it's a long time since I played with a scanner, but that should be all you need.... no frigging with devfs stuff should be necessary, particularly as etch doesn't use devfs ;)
00:29 <****> DocPlatypus: And my most recent experience is largely Win2K/XP/S2K.
00:29 <****> themill; now thats what I needed to know
00:30 <****> what should i use for a sid deb-src line in sources.list ?
00:30 <****> karsten: can you repeat that in English?

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