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08 October 2007

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--- Log opened Mon Oct 08 00:00:10 2007
--- Day changed Mon Oct 08 2007
00:00 <****> hey...
00:00 <****> azeem_: currently yes
00:00 <****> abrotman: his debian machine
00:00 <****> debian ia64 is for core 2 duo?
00:00 <****> abrotman: the other one's called winnie
00:00 <****> justme: no
00:00 <****> azeem_: i hop arround from buntu to debian and vice versa
00:00 <****> justme: no. you want amd64
00:00 <****> justme: you want amd64
00:01 <****>
00:01 <****> amd64 for intel?
00:01 <****> hehe
00:01 <****> justme: yes
00:01 <****> okay, thanks
00:01 <****> justme: amd64 is a generic name .. it covers the amd64 and the intel em64-t
00:02 <****> justme: even so, you might still want to install i386 if you want things like flash and java plugins to "just work"
00:02 <****> hello..I try m-a prepare && m-a get rt2500 && m-a build rt2500 but it fails..I have linux-headers .
00:03 <****> http://rafb.net/p/a7Yvvw63.html
00:03 <****> /dev/hdc: ST380011A: drive is sleeping
00:03 <****> what could be wrong
00:03 <****> erm..
00:03 <****> haaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! debian didn't want to work with my router. but then solaris works fine with it. damn damn damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:04 <****> well, when java and flash will be supported? its annoying...
00:04 <****> justme: that's a good question for Sun and Adobe respectively.
00:05 <****> marinosi: checked the BTS for that package ?
00:05 <****> justme: btw, java is there. java plugin (for applets inside the browser) isn't.
00:05 <****> its been a while
00:06 <****> abrotman: BTS?
00:06 <****> !bts
00:06 <****> it has been said that bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges
00:07 <****> In what file does gnome keep its Startup Program entries?
00:08 <****> I think a compiz entry is causing gnome not to start entirely while using ~100% of my CPU
00:12 <****> I am getting a "no such file/directory" error from bash when I try to run an executable file, even though the executable file exists. Why could this be happening?
00:13 <****> **syntax error
00:18 <****> any suggestion for flash player in iceweasel debian etch amd64? libflash-moz-plugin does not work properly... locks the browser too frequently..
00:19 <****> night all
00:19 <****> I can ls and see the file (which is nonempty), but bash can't find it. That's bizarre.
00:20 <****> x19924: does this work? /bin/true
00:20 <****> x19924: after that: cd /bin; ./true
00:21 <****> x19924: "true" is supposed to work. it will just do nothing (no error messages on screen)
00:21 <****> Yes, "true" works.
00:22 <****> x19924: paste an example containing the command you are running, the output as well as the output of ls -l on the file, id, and echo $PATH will help
00:23 <****> Ok, hold on.
00:23 <****> paste it in a pastebin
00:23 <****> Will do.
00:26 <****> http://pastebin.com/d76c3e656
00:29 <****> x19924: run hash -r and try again
00:30 <****> oh nm
00:32 <****> I tried "hash -r", but I am still getting the "No such file/directory" error.
00:32 <****> is there a good tool to remote install Debian machines? I've seen cobbler in action ( On Fedora ). I wonder if there is anything similar for Debian???
00:33 <****> Interestingly enough, "openwin" is the only one that executes out of all those files...
00:34 <****> basix: fai perhaps ?
00:34 <****> basix: maybe fai (haven't tried it)
00:34 <****> abrotman, have you tried it?
00:36 <****> basix: no need .. but you can also do the regular install over ssh
00:37 <****> abrotman, okay...i just wanted something that requires zero user intervention. the clients just need to boot off PXE and then the server handles the complete install.
00:37 <****> you can preseed the installer
00:38 <****> !preseed
00:38 <****> i guess preseed is a method of doing a remote network installation, or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394, or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
00:38 <****> okay...i'll cehck it out
00:38 <****> x19924: does openwin works if you call it with the full path? /usr/openwin/bin/openwin
00:39 <****> Yes, it works with the full path or just "openwin".
00:39 * jelly-home has last seen "openwin" on Solaris 2.6 and wonders whether this is the same thing (and why would anyone want it)
00:39 <****> jelly-home: it was in 2.7 at least also
00:40 <****> erm .. solaris7
00:40 <****> whatever wacky version number they gave it
00:40 <****> yeah, whatever :-)
00:40 <****> wait .. no SunOS5.7!
00:40 <****> It's also in Solaris 8.
00:40 <****> SunOS 5.9.
00:40 <****> I believe....
00:41 <****> I have the Linux verison though.
00:42 <****> x19924: I got a similar problem once, when I changed the directory structure and all previously opened bash still tried to call programs from old directory structure...
00:42 <****> x19924: but I don't think this is your case.
00:42 <****> x19924: sorry... I have no hints :(
00:43 <****> x19924: is the executable in question a shell script?
00:43 <****> No, it should be a binary executable.
00:43 <****> i think 9 was the first with cde/gnome
00:43 <****> x19924: pastebin "file /path/to/your/binary"
00:44 <****> "more olvwm" tells me, "This is not a text file."
00:44 <****> er, just paste, it's one loine
00:45 <****> /usr/openwin/bin/olvwm: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
00:45 <****> good.
00:45 <****> x19924: now pastebin "ldd -v /usr/openwin/bin/olvwm"
00:45 <****> could be a library issue
00:45 <****> hello again, after compile and install new kernel HAL is not working, i plug my usb disk or click the cd icon and says something like this funtion is avaliable with HAL.
00:45 <****> or a awfully old binary wanting ld.so and libc5
00:46 <****> I reinstalled hal and still the same
00:47 <****> What's the recommended place to put python scripts?
00:47 <****> (I'm packaging them)
00:47 <****> aphexer: callable by user?
00:47 <****> They are to be called from init scripts
00:47 <****> aphexer: depends on their function, consult the FHS
00:48 <****> It's a login script, authenticating to some server to get internet access
00:48 <****> !fhs
00:48 <****> from memory, fhs is Unlike Gobolinux or OS X, Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the debian-policy package
00:48 <****> "ldd -v /usr/openwin/bin/olvwm" : /usr/bin/ldd: line 124: /usr/openwin/bin/olvwm: No such file or directory
00:48 <****> aphexer: are they scripts or modules? I'd put them in /usr/share/package-name if I didn't know any better

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