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16 October 2007

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--- Log opened Tue Oct 16 00:00:18 2007
--- Day changed Tue Oct 16 2007
00:00 <****> creature: but its certainly not as nice as NM for that clicky goodness
00:00 <****> but really, getting connected to wifi over cli takes me about 15 seconds
00:01 <****> liable: Yeah, it's not a CLI thing that I'm bothered about really. I like my laptop to be a bit more shiny.
00:02 <****> Just for evangelism purposes, really.
00:02 <****> you lose many geek points for using Nm P
00:03 <****> liable: I've got plenty of geek points. But when people see me chilling in a café with my linux laptop, I don't want them thinking "Nerd" I want them thinking "Ooh, shiny."
00:04 <****> really? I look over and think "what the fuck are you looking at my laptop for asshole!" ;)
00:05 <****> Yeah, well, I have sexy friends who are sensitive to aesthetics.
00:06 <****> read: creature is trying to get laid ;)
00:06 <****> It's a valid point when dealing with such systems.
00:09 <****> liable: http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html "So I said, narrow the focus. Your "use case" should be, there's a 22 year old college student living in the dorms. How will this software get him laid?"
00:09 <****> Hello I've got crash problem with my Linux. The X crashes i've got ati 9250 is there any solution ?
00:10 <****> dancios: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say?
00:11 <****> ii libc6 2.5-0ubuntu14 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
00:11 <****> fail
00:11 <****> dancios: only /msg people when they allow it
00:11 <****> !ubuntu
00:11 <****>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian.
00:12 <****> libfuse2
00:12 <****> dancios: read what the bot told you
00:13 <****> sorry :) ok
00:13 <****> liable: OK, can we go back to using network-manager for now?
00:15 <****> creature: sure
00:15 <****> i don't get it. backports has ntfs-3g but not the libfuse2 dependency?
00:15 <****> ls
00:16 <****> DawnLight: then you haven't set the repo up properly
00:17 <****> shame about those allblacks
00:17 <****> hehe
00:17 <****> i would gloat all so much more if we didnt get our ass kicked as well
00:17 * streuner dances the .nz special dance ;-)
00:18 <****> liable: at least we got beaten by a team who can play
00:18 <****> liable: are you aware that these allblacks are almost gods in .nz?
00:18 <****> Guerin: well, they team that beat you, got beaten by the team that beat us
00:18 <****> streuner: they're almost gods in Australia too, no need to rub it in ;)
00:19 <****> didnt know that
00:19 <****> only because half of nz lives in oz
00:19 <****> liable: yeah, they're slow-burners, those english.
00:19 <****> bloody wilkins
00:19 <****> heh
00:20 <****> now the yaapies get to repeat their 36-0 pool match
00:20 <****> there scrum and defence was goos though
00:20 <****> good*
00:20 <****> liable: they actually ran a bit as well
00:20 <****> i was shocked!
00:20 <****> is there a smart way of dealing with a tarball with mutiple directories with cdbs?
00:21 <****> Guerin: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-_CaSu-fnGg
00:21 <****> Guerin: the france game was terrible, they should have had it, but then that save and drop-kick changed the game
00:22 <****> liable: yep.
00:22 <****> streuner: what is it?
00:22 <****> liable: Alternatively, if I wanted to try with wpa_supplicant, how would I set that up?
00:22 <****> creature: i thought you had it working?
00:23 <****> with wpasupp
00:23 <****> Guerin: "All Blacks Haka" ;-)
00:23 <****> theres a good aussie haka out there somewhere
00:23 <****> liable: I've got wpa_supplicant running in one window, and I had to dhclient from another window.
00:23 <****> well, the first bit is funny
00:24 <****> It works, but it's not sexy and transparent.
00:24 <****> streuner: yeah, seen it
00:24 <****> Guerin: i've added "deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free" and i'm updating. it complains about the key, but that shouldn't be a problem, right? there is no libfuse2 in the backports and the one in etch is a version below that which the ntfs-3g is dependant on
00:24 <****> DawnLight: never add the entire backports repo
00:24 <****> creature: you can set it all up via interfaces file, its fairly well documented in the docs in /usr/share/doc
00:24 <****> DawnLight: only ever add the sub-repo for the things you actually need
00:25 <****> Guerin: you know the meaning when they touch there lips?
00:25 <****> DawnLight: (but that shouldn't change the fact all the deps ought to be there)
00:25 <****> Guerin: i'm also looking in the site. it isn't there
00:25 <****> creature: then it will check all set networks and connect to an open one if available, if there are no private networks available
00:26 <****> Guerin: "You taste certainly very well..."
00:27 <****> Ok, I'll check out those docs.
00:27 <****> liable: Thanks for the help.
00:28 <****> no problem, you should be pretty right after reading the wpasupp docs, they are pretty good
00:28 <****> streuner: no lip-touching in either of the all blacks' hakas, afaik
00:28 <****> please I got problems with eclipse 3.2.0 on unstable: it crashes on start after a fresh installation via apt-get :(
00:29 <****> Posterdati: file a bug
00:29 <****> Posterdati: presuming one hasn't already been filed
00:29 <****> Guerin: :(
00:29 <****> Posterdati: this is what you get for using unstable.
00:30 <****> Guerin: true, i just searched for and saw 3 different ones, but no "touching lips"
00:30 <****> Guerin: got sid
00:30 <****> Posterdati: so I see.
00:31 <****> streuner: `ka mate' actually has a pretty good story behind it, which you can probably find on teh goog
00:37 <****> Guerin: found it. forgot that there can be two versions of the same packages
00:38 <****> but it shoud've known to select the correct one
00:38 <****> now to making this thing work...
00:40 <****> hi, im at the download page for debian distros, and i see that the full DVD set is 3 4.4gb dvds!
00:40 <****> yerp
00:40 <****> do these include all the packages i might want?
00:41 <****> is that why its so big?
00:41 <****> just get one CD, thats usually enough
00:41 <****> !overfiends phallace
00:41 <****> bah
00:41 <****> !d-i
00:41 <****> Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing!
00:41 <****> because i really only want gcc and boost libs
00:41 <****>
00:41 <****> !d-i Atalanta
00:41 <****> Atalanta, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the 4.0r0 installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's.
00:42 <****> Atalanta: grab the netinstall image and it will then download only the bits you need for your installation.
00:42 <****> =D

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