#debian
20 October 2007
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--- Log opened Sat Oct 20 00:00:14 2007
--- Day changed Sat Oct 20 2007
00:00 <****> nameless: yes
00:00 <****> johnseb: is xserver-xorg-input-kbd installed?
00:00 <****> m-a prepare and m-a a-i nvidia ?
00:00 <****> When a package is downloaded where does debian store it?
00:01 <****> cchanc1: /var/cache/apt/archives
00:01 <****> nameless, http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
00:01 <****> stew, yes it is
00:01 <****> stew, as i said to techouse, at the login screen if i choose to log in "failsafe" mode my keyboard works
00:02 <****> oh
00:02 <****> so it must be some kind of gnome problem
00:02 <****> nameless: what kernel do you run?
00:02 <****> stew, kde
00:02 <****> 2.6.22
00:02 <****> 2.6.22-2-686
00:03 <****> hi all, how do i run a command at boot time on debian. i have to start a SVN daemon is there an easy way to do this
00:04 <****> via crontab cwraig
00:05 <****> E-bola, isnt that for scheduling (eg run this at 3pm each day)
00:05 <****> cwraig: an sshd isn't being started for you already?
00:05 <****> stew if i look in kdm.log
00:06 <****> stew, SVN (subversion) not ssh sorry
00:06 <****> i get a message BOGUS LENGTH in write keyboard desc, expected 5044, got 5048
00:06 <****> does anyone know how to get sound working with 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055c (rev a1)
00:06 <****> how can i use ntfs
00:07 <****> !ntfsro
00:07 <****> add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want.
00:07 <****> yiga1: snd-hda-intel, and it might not work
00:07 <****> and update-pciids
00:07 <****> to install debian onto
00:08 <****> wols: I put it in /etc/modules with no effect :(
00:08 <****> atlfalcons866: not possible
00:08 <****> you want to install debian on ntfs ?
00:08 <****> lol why?
00:08 <****> what about fat
00:08 <****> yiga1: if it doesn't try a newer alsa-driver (use alsa-source)
00:08 <****> not possible anymore either
00:08 <****> might still work with UMSDOS but it's iffy
00:08 <****> !umsdos
00:08 <****> a linux partition that fits over top of ms-dos, without destroying your ms-0dos/win filesystem. read the umdos-howto. good for testing linux or having a small distro on a small hd running dos if you don't want to delete all your parnd
00:08 <****> h3sp4wn: ok
00:09 <****> then what fs should i use
00:09 <****> ext3
00:09 <****> yiga1: http://openwrt.vcp-springe.de/experimental/h3sp4wn/alsa-source_1.0.15-0_all.deb (try that if you cannot be bothered to do it yourself)
00:09 <****> I did it a few days ago and its what I am using
00:09 <****> ext3 is slow resiser is a joke
00:09 <****> hey how safe is it writing to ntfs?
00:09 <****> !jfs
00:09 <****> i heard jfs is Journaled File System from IBM, licensed under the GPL. Check http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/ It improved a lot performance-wise since 2003! Give it another try... Maybe worth it!
00:09 <****> !xfs
00:09 <****>. It notoriously loses data if you have unexpected power failures.
00:10 <****> !zfs
00:10 <****> from memory, zfs is http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS or http://www.wizy.org/wiki/ZFS_on_FUSE
00:10 <****> !ntfs
00:10 <****>. See also http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ and http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html
00:10 <****> atlfalcons866, ext3 have safe and slow defaults. you are free to use faster options.
00:10 <****> atlfalcons866: since you obviously don't know much about filesystems, you should use ext3
00:10 <****> atlfalcons866, i recomend ext3
00:10 <****> i know about ext3
00:10 <****> instead
00:10 <****> !ntfs-3g
00:10 <****> hmm... ntfs-3g is a NTFS driver with write support. Available in lenny but not for etch except as a backport at http://www.backports.org/. http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
00:10 <****> "slow" is rather misleading
00:10 <****> ext3 is what you should use unless you have an _extremely_ good reason to do otherwise
00:10 <****> is the NTFS-3g write support *safe* ?
00:11 <****> ext3 doesn't have extents which may or may not be an issue for you
00:11 <****> btw
00:11 <****> how can i change the jorunal options in ext3
00:11 <****> any news on hans' murder trial?
00:11 <****> stiv2k: best to read their online docs and stick to the newest version available
00:11 <****> atlfalcons866, man tune2fs
00:11 <****> ok
00:11 <****> !extents
00:11 <****> !botabuse
00:11 <****> lay off me you buggerererers!!11!
00:12 <****> !tell atlfalcons866 about help
00:12 <****> atlfalcons866: please /msg the bot directly
00:12 <****> why isn't ntfs-3g supported for etch?
00:13 <****> if you download the source and compile it will it work?
00:13 <****> techouse: yes it will
00:13 <****> ok
00:13 <****> techouse: but first check backports
00:13 <****> ok
00:14 <****> wait...is icecat a more recent version of iceweasel?
00:14 <****> do you mean icecast?
00:14 <****> no
00:14 <****> yea
00:15 <****> that's a streaming servre
00:15 <****> wait..
00:15 <****> icecast is a fee version of shoutcast
00:15 <****> free
00:15 <****> GNU IceCat (formerly GNU IceWeasel) is the web browser from GNU Project.
00:15 <****> iceweasel is a rename of firefox
00:15 <****> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceWeasel
00:15 <****> Icecat?
00:15 <****> i know
00:15 <****> sounds funky
00:15 <****> yeah
00:15 <****> wtf is icecat?!
00:15 <****> definitely betta than iceweasel
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