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28 October 2007

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--- Log opened Sun Oct 28 00:00:18 2007
--- Day changed Sun Oct 28 2007
00:00 <****> i'm sure albertmk can
00:00 <****> simonrvn: ?
00:00 <****> what command do i use to attempt to boot into x again...or for better words---start x
00:01 <****> abrotman: re up ^^^^^^^^^^
00:01 <****> stopher: gnome? kde?
00:01 <****> kde?
00:01 <****> /etc/init.d/kdm restart
00:01 <****> no such file/directory
00:01 <****> gdm ?
00:01 <****> xdm?
00:01 <****> ...
00:01 <****> /etc/init.d/?dm restart
00:01 <****> gdm
00:01 <****> and it's starting!!!
00:01 <****> simonrvn: I am confused about full desktop size in Etch since my SArge without desktop and all other applications takes no more than 2.8GB
00:01 <****> you're a life saver abrotman
00:02 <****> +2000 points for you :D
00:02 <****> does X work ?
00:02 <****> etch is about the same, maybe a bit more
00:02 <****> yep it works
00:02 <****> simonrvn: and a desktop add-on makes it huge comparing with non-desktop
00:02 <****> wtf
00:02 <****> how the hell do you get a sarge 'no-desktop' system to 2.8GB ?
00:02 * Azar ducks ... abrotman is about to throw something
00:03 <****> that's like every non-X related package
00:03 <****> hmmm abrotman can you please give me that command that shows % on my HD?
00:04 <****> df -h
00:05 <****> /dev/hda2 110G 2.2G 102G 3% / << 2.2G is the used portion
00:06 <****> sarge with a 2.6.8 kernel, with X only, openbox, open office, games, xmms, gkrellm, firefox. No mail.
00:06 <****> anybody knows how to move a screen to a different workspace in ratpoison?
00:06 <****> hey i need some help
00:07 <****> dalias: use the BIOS
00:07 <****> i'm trying to upgrade an older debian system from 2.4 to 2.6 kernel
00:07 <****> with sata ?
00:07 <****> no
00:07 <****> HD 110GB, used 3% of it
00:07 <****> wrong tab complete?
00:07 <****> anyway
00:07 <****> so was I bragging wrong, abrotman?
00:08 <****> i'm trying to upgrade it to latest sid (it was running old sid)
00:08 <****> and i can't upgrade libc6 without having a 2.6 kernel
00:08 <****> but i can't upgrade the kernel without having initramfs/module tools that depend on libc6
00:08 <****> dalias: upgrade to etch .. then sid
00:08 <****> how to solve thsi circular dependency?
00:09 <****> hm. but for some packages etch might be a downgrade
00:09 <****> i'm worried it could make problems
00:09 <****> abrotman: can he up to etch with a 2.4 kernel?
00:09 <****> the old libc6 can't run the newer kernels
00:09 <****> thanks again abrotman
00:09 <****> dalias: try etch
00:09 <****> stopher: have a great day!
00:15 <****> abrotman, is there a way to just force the install of libc6 upgrade?
00:15 <****> don't think so .. do the etch thing
00:15 <****> abrotman, i don't care if threaded programs crash in the meantime until i upgrade the kernel
00:15 <****> i tried adding etch sources and adding -t etch
00:15 <****> what happens when you try to upgrade to etch ?
00:16 <****> no .. comment out everything except the etch sources .. do a dist-upgrade including installing a new kernel
00:16 <****> apt-get install -t etch linux-image-2.6-...
00:16 <****> are you sure that's safe?
00:16 <****> what if some packages are newer than the versions in etch already?
00:16 <****> well, it's usually safe, but you should probably read the release notes. Have you been using backports?
00:17 <****> ...or rolling your own?
00:17 <****> forcing the libc6 install would be a lot safer (can't actually break anything critical) if there's a way to do it
00:17 <****> vasistha, the box is already running sid
00:17 <****> but not upgraded in a while
00:17 <****> (a long while)
00:18 <****> dalias: dpkg -l libc6
00:18 <****> or run /lib/libc.so.6
00:19 <****> 2.3.6.ds1-5
00:19 <****> !info libc6 etch
00:19 <****> libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 (etch), Packaged size: 4588 kB, Installed size: 10804 kB
00:19 <****> yeah .. i'd go to etch first :)
00:23 <****> okay i think i managed to fix the dep breakage so that i can install the etch libc6 and kernel without having to install loads of other stuff
00:24 <****> !do the old sid dance
00:24 * dpkg does the old sid dance
00:27 <****> dalias: see .. i'm not a total moron!
00:27 <****> linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 is 404
00:27 <****> wtf
00:27 <****> hey guys, anyone use an external 56k modem with debian by chance? was curious if there are any recommended models
00:28 <****> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.18-4-686_2.6.18.dfsg.1-12_i386.deb
00:28 <****> dalias: apt-get update
00:28 <****> update does nothing
00:28 <****> its -5- now
00:28 <****> weird
00:28 <****> okay
00:28 <****> got it
00:28 <****> your mirror could be .. six months out of date
00:28 <****> !info linux-image-2.6.8-5-686
00:28 <****> .18
00:28 <****> and etch
00:28 <****> !info linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 etch
00:28 <****> linux-image-2.6.18-5-686: (Linux 2.6.18 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13 (etch), Packaged size: 15935 kB, Installed size: 46856 kB
00:28 <****> !info linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 etch
00:28 <****> bah
00:29 <****> i think it was just pebkac error
00:29 <****> blah just realized this wallmount cabinet is too small
00:29 <****> who the hell needs a cabinet anyhow..
00:30 <****> *rip*

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