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25 December 2007

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--- Log opened Tue Dec 25 00:00:00 2007
--- Day changed Tue Dec 25 2007
00:00 <****> I compiled a pair of custom kernels to get realtime features and avahi-daemon does not work.
00:00 <****> Can I go over my partition scheme to make sure it's acceptable before I commit it?
00:00 <****> valdyn, but i still can not install flash-plugin. how can i be sure that it is 32-bit yet?
00:00 <****> ManuP: are you installing a 32-bit chroot just to use flash? wth
00:01 <****> valdyn, oh, lol... it is 64bit... "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; de; "....
00:01 <****> ManuP: flash can run fine in 64-bit debian
00:01 <****> !nspluginwrapper
00:01 <****> on testing/unstable, while unofficial *stable/Etch* packages are available at http://www.dipconsultants.com/debian/
00:01 <****> valdyn, yes, for flash, adobe acrobat reader, and maybe eclipse... and there might be some other programs i need (which arent available in 64bit)
00:02 <****> valdyn, oh, how can flash run in 64bit?
00:02 <****> ManuP: read what dpkg said
00:03 <****> Hello everybody, is there any way to prevent cups from listening on ipv6 addresse ? (without recompiling it and without removing the ipv6 module from the kernel)
00:03 <****> is 255 MB big enough for /boot?
00:03 <****> yes definitly
00:03 <****> valdyn, okay. will look at it.
00:03 <****> but 256MB is a much nicer number
00:03 <****> hdevalence: usually
00:04 <****> valdyn, but why didnt the chroot work? why did it still start the 64bit firefox?
00:04 <****> ManuP: all i know from your info is that it did not work, that's not something anyone can work with
00:04 <****> !tell ManuP -about ask
00:04 <****> ManuP: i have to go away though so i cant help anyway.
00:05 <****> valdyn, thanks for helping this far. cu
00:17 <****> how do i run adobe acrobat reader on amd64?
00:17 <****> it's 32bit only
00:17 <****> though evince/xpdf/kpdf are pretty nice
00:18 <****> xpdf isn't
00:18 <****> abrotman, i am not satisfied with evince...
00:18 <****> it looks ugly
00:18 <****> timonator: I like xpdf
00:19 <****> timonator: it still reads PDFs
00:19 <****> ManuP: welcome to closed-source software. enjoy your stay!
00:19 <****> ManuP: so try the others
00:19 <****> abrotman, i tried to run chroot 32bit... i could need some help at this.
00:19 <****> i thought the amd64 manual talked about how to do this
00:19 <****> !amd64
00:19 <****>
00:20 <****> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292281
00:20 <****> abrotman, xsdg i realy need the *exact* view AND print of an pdf (for work). evince makes too much errors at this. sorry
00:20 <****> abrotman: merry christmas
00:20 <****> hi streuner!
00:20 <****> ManuP: use windows!
00:20 * xsdg nods at abrotman
00:21 <****> abrotman, no!
00:21 <****> ManuP: i just gave you the link for the 32bit chroot .. though i've found evince and xpdf more than adequate
00:21 <****> abrotman, i am already reading your link :)
00:22 <****> streuner: how's the holiday in your town?
00:22 <****> abrotman: christmas as always, fucking boring days ;-)
00:22 <****> streuner: did you drink all the nog?
00:24 <****> not yet
00:24 * streuner just startet at 11 PM ;-)
00:24 <****> started*
00:24 <****> abrotman, i have a question... i already did the essential steps (should be able to run programs, didnt try schroot yet). i installed (just for example) firefox. installation inside chroot of course. but when i launch, it is the 64bit version. whats wrong?
00:25 <****> ManuP: is firefox already running elsewhere?
00:25 <****> xsdg, yes.
00:25 <****> ManuP: uhm .. i haven't read the instructions .. did you do the chenv or whatever it is ?
00:25 <****> ManuP: firefox does fancy things when trying not to have two instances running at once
00:26 <****> ManuP: so use a different test program
00:26 <****> like vi!
00:26 <****> or windows!
00:26 * abrotman runs
00:26 <****> hi
00:26 <****> xsdg, i will close ff...
00:27 <****> xsdg, hey, your good! this time i have the 32-bit version. thanks a lot.
00:27 <****> ManuP: np
00:27 <****> xsdg, this version has an ugly theme.. is this normal?
00:27 <****> ManuP: you're
00:28 <****> abrotman, no, i didnt do the chenv-thing. it wasnt mentioned in the howto.
00:28 <****> ManuP: then ignore it
00:28 <****> ManuP: probably related to not having matching gtk stuff in the 32-bit env
00:28 <****> i've seen it used in other chroot stuff
00:29 <****> xsdg, right. that could it be.
00:30 <****> what happens if i developp a java application in my 64-bit environment, is it runnable on 32bit? java should be platform independent, shouldnt it?
00:30 <****> ManuP: java should be, yeah (at least, theoretically)
00:31 <****> ManuP: of course, Sun hasn't release a JVM for amd64 :oP
00:31 <****> (there are open source VMs, but they don't quite have the same feature set, from what I understand)
00:31 <****> lol, theoretically... c++ binarys wouldnt... java "binarys" should.. hmm.. I'll have to try
00:32 <****> ManuP: java should, yeah, but they'll only run where you have a VM to run them
00:32 <****> xsdg, right. but i thought, there might be problems when compiling on 64bit and letting run on 32bit. I will see.
00:33 <****> ManuP: as you said, with java, that shouldn't be the case
00:34 <****> abrotman: do you celebrate christmas at all?
00:34 <****> streuner: sure .. i'm freezing my ass off in wisconsin with my mum
00:35 <****> can you change Window Manager on the fly?
00:35 <****> depends on the wm being used and replacing
00:36 <****> FluxBox could do this
00:36 <****> it has a "Window Managers" menu
00:36 <****> flux is a WM
00:36 <****> oh .. also depends how you started it
00:36 <****> woohoo
00:36 <****> well how should i do it?
00:41 <****> Hi, im looking for a easy Socks5 proxy, i only need to specific the port and the log directory, thats all
00:41 <****> Coud anybody give me a hint?
00:42 <****> Long time ago ive got the perfect one for this, but forgotten the name =(
00:43 <****> did you try apt-cache search proxy?
00:43 <****> !info tsocks etch
00:43 <****> tsocks: (transparent network access through a SOCKS 4 or 5 proxy), section net, is optional. Version: 1.8beta5-3 (etch), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 588 kB
00:44 <****> transparent? need a highly anonymus
00:45 <****> abrotman some idea for this?
00:45 <****> cant i do a chroot from a script?

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