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01 November 2005

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23:37 <****> linuxfreck: and are quickly backstepping to using the pentium-M which is basically a develobment of the P3 :)
23:37 <****> which is why amd's dual core procs are so much better than intels
23:37 <****> pseudojw: amd's design has the northbridge in the processor, so they don't need a fsb
23:38 <****> the fsb is a big bottleneck nowadays anyway
23:38 <****> ignacio, although evince can display images, it can't nicely 'read' them, as it can only display one image
23:38 <****> linuxfreck: oh yeah, that's right =)
23:38 <****> Then file a bug report.
23:39 <****> I'm gonna assume stock heatsink with an amd athlon 3000+ isnt very good for overclocking, right?
23:39 <****> overclocking on amd athlon is always bad
23:39 <****> linuxfreck: why so?
23:39 <****> I don't even usually use the stock heatsink for normal use
23:39 <****> AMD chips don't have thermal protection.
23:40 * linuxfreck agrees with ignacio
23:40 <****> and my comments were on athlon64
23:40 <****> Yeah, I've heard about that. so I could burn up this thing.
23:40 <****> It won't power down if it gets so hot it's about to burn up.
23:40 <****> you could hope that it crashes before htat :)
23:40 <****> You won't get a chance.
23:40 <****> Silicon overheating is catastrophic.
23:41 <****> The more it conducts, the hotter it gets. The hotter it gets, the better it conducts.
23:42 <****> yeah, but i read that some mobos have built in protection that halts teh system after it gets past a certain degree?
23:42 <****> mine does : p
23:42 <****> Shuts my pc down if it gets to to hot
23:42 <****> I wouldn't count on athlon xp boards to do that
23:43 -!- Fooyu is now known as Eric_Cartman
23:43 <****> My motherboard has the... Hey dumbfuck, the fan died... chip is fried, buy a new one... Beeping system.
23:43 <****> Kinda doesn't help much
23:44 <****> Maybe if I had a system that told me that the fan was about to die... now that would save me monies! Don't you think? ;)
23:44 <****> maybe lol
23:44 <****> Mine came with "Built-in annoying as hell cheap grindy sound"
23:44 <****> I heard it dying a mile away
23:44 <****> hehe
23:45 <****> I usually buy Masscool heatsink + fan combo's
23:45 <****> They haven't troubled me... much.
23:45 <****> And most of them are quiet quiet
23:46 <****> I never really had issues with my fan, i bought one for 9.00 and it's really silent
23:47 <****> been going for 6 years with decent air flow
23:47 <****> 6 years ago the processors still had a somewhat sane heat generation though
23:48 <****> i never burt up any cpus. and i didnt have an intel since that pentium 133
23:48 <****> my current athlon runs fine at 38C without any fans
23:48 <****> i just use the PSU fan on a large passive copper rib
23:48 <****> if the PSU dies then so will the system, so im safe :)
23:51 <****> its actually 36C now
23:52 <****> not if just the psu fan dies
23:52 <****> Anyone have any luck with cdemu? I'm persitantly getting wrong FS type.
23:52 <****> x1bncwn: then the psu will know
23:52 <****> itll keep going
23:53 <****> thats how the mobo on my p3 'flexatx' system went up
23:53 <****> small gateway system, no cpu fan
23:53 <****> just a large heat sink that sat jest below the psu fan
23:53 <****> heh. well i tested the system running wihtout psu fan cooling the cpu, and it stopped at peak 68C
23:53 <****> its the way it was designed
23:53 <****> well i think the fan actually shorted
23:54 <****> one of those ceramic donuts was black
23:54 <****> system was very hot
23:54 <****> locked up, when i woke up in the morning
23:54 <****> hm. sounds horrific
23:54 <****> my bios will shut down my computer if it gets above 60c
23:54 <****> the cpu doesnt need a fan always, but id imagine the psu does
23:54 <****> x1bncwn: did the cpu fry?
23:55 <****> havent checked it afterwards
23:55 <****> i doubt it
23:55 <****> i dont have another mobo for it
23:55 <****> oh heh
23:55 <****> everything else still worked
23:55 <****> mobo fried??? that was strange
23:55 <****> yea
23:55 <****> just one of those ceramic donuts
23:55 <****> wtf ever they are
23:55 <****> i thougth that was in the PSU
23:55 <****> magnet
23:55 <****> it was black
23:55 <****> coiled
23:56 <****> yes
23:56 <****> ï think they are small trafos
23:56 <****> it was suppose to be green
23:56 <****> so something fried
23:56 <****> two wires with different number of coils
23:57 <****> its funny that the mobo died and not the cpu
23:57 <****> can nmap scan types of routers or modems people are using?
23:57 <****> that cpu didnt really need a fan at all
23:57 <****> it can run fanless
23:57 <****> p3 coppermine
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