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04 November 2007
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--- Log opened Sun Nov 04 00:00:13 2007
00:00 <****>] Tainted: G S VLI
00:00 <****> looks like a stack trace
00:00 <****> :(
00:01 <****> looks like a tainted kernel
00:01 <****> my kernel is tainted, but i dont see messages like that
00:01 <****> coz it doesn't crash?
00:02 <****> oh...yeah thats true
00:02 <****> tainted is such an ugly word
00:02 <****> id use "enhanced" instead
00:03 <****> WARNING: module 'nvidia.ko' enhances kernel
00:03 <****> well taint because it is not from source
00:03 <****> means VLI taints my kernel?
00:03 <****> moeSizlak: it DOES change the persmisions when it mounts it! even though the mountpoint was 777 before, when it mounts it it changes them. I've made another mountpoint other than opt and it still does that
00:03 <****> How would I convert a avi file to mp4 for my ipod?
00:04 <****> is there some mount option that I must use to make the mount point writable by everybody?
00:04 <****> jubei: what are you using to mount?
00:04 <****> ffmpeg or mencoder?
00:04 <****> zention: i'm using mount
00:04 <****> jubei: hmmm vfat probably has some extentions then
00:04 <****> ktwilight: Ubuntu 6.06 2.6.15-29-386
00:05 <****> i looked at the manpage for mount and it doesn't specify anything like that for vfat
00:05 <****> AngryElf, could be a kernel issue. think it was 2.6.18 that was stable?
00:05 <****> hello!
00:05 <****> that is an old kernel
00:05 <****> jubei: *mask=
00:06 <****> does anybody knows where i can find "hdiutil" and "diskutil"?
00:06 <****> copper: that's a mount option?
00:06 <****> Togusa86: google
00:06 <****> umask= fmask= dmask=
00:06 <****> i already tried
00:06 <****> yes
00:06 <****> GrimRC can you tell me the package name at least?
00:06 <****> jubei: try mount -o users
00:06 <****> check out Documentation/filesystems/vfat.txt in kernel docs
00:07 <****> Togusa86: I don't have them
00:07 <****> copper: thanks
00:07 <****> Excuse me, if I want to run a firewall, router, webserver with a mail server, what linux dist should I be using, I am most familiar with ubuntu/debian :)
00:07 <****> ok ok
00:07 <****> i don't know where to find them -__-
00:07 <****> ktwilight: 2.6.15 is not?
00:07 <****> Seivan|: they sound right tome
00:07 <****> Seivan|: debian
00:08 <****> Togusa86: neither do I
00:08 <****> AngryElf, *shrugs* dno't think so
00:08 <****> AngryElf, but then again, Ubuntu is never known for its stability
00:08 <****> zention why not Ubuntu server ?
00:08 <****> Seivan|: well you could but debian is good for servers
00:09 <****> ubuntu is quite new on the server front
00:09 <****> Seivan|: run OpenBSD
00:09 <****> copper NO way
00:09 <****> is there a file manager for ssh so I can work on my webserver?
00:09 <****> freebsd apparently is quite good too
00:09 <****> Seivan|: different mentalities really
00:09 <****> Seivan|: okay
00:09 <****> copper No way Im doing BSD, too unesecearry complex
00:09 <****> sayers, scp?
00:09 <****> zention nothing that is better with debian?
00:09 <****> complex?
00:09 <****> Seivan|: better than?
00:10 <****> sayers, but your terminal should be good enough to manage
00:10 <****> no more complex than any linux distro
00:10 <****> zention why did you say Debian, does it have something better
00:10 <****> ktwilight, I guess
00:10 <****> centos apparently is quite good too, but i've heard more issues with it than debian
00:10 <****> Seivan|: it is the mentality
00:10 <****> copper in fact that it takes like 10 minutes to install Nano texteditor compared to debian is not considered good
00:10 <****> zention roger :) thanks
00:10 <****> Seivan|: debian is more server orientated in its approach
00:10 <****> zention there is an Ubuntu server dist too
00:10 <****> Seivan|: see bsd is good on a server
00:10 <****> won't Debian be too out-dated; what if you to use newest python etc.?
00:11 <****> Seivan|: because you generally want the server to run and run
00:11 <****> Seivan|, sounds like a marketing gimmick. what difference are there between ubuntu's server and desktop?
00:11 <****> Seivan|: now ubunutu is desktop orientated so there you want new software all the time
00:11 <****> GrimRC, then compile your own, or grab from testing or unstable
00:11 <****> ktwilight, oh wow, that was a lot easier than I woulda thought
00:11 <****> GrimRC, at least the potential 'damage' is minimised
00:11 <****> ktwilight: I used Debian quite some time ago, and unstable was out of date
00:12 <****> Can someone help me with mod_auth_mysql on apache 2.2 ? Yes i know they don't work with eachother, but i got precompiled one which is patched to work ? Error is pasted in: http://pastebin.ca/760370
00:12 <****> GrimRC, then i would seroiusly question your need for bleeding edge on your server
00:12 <****> Seivan|: so who do you choose someone who does not move much or something that is used to moving more often - for a server I say the former
00:12 <****> ktwilight: that was for desktop
00:12 <****> copper: it was the umask , thanks for the tip.
00:12 <****> zention the problem is FreeBSd is so complex, the time it takes to learn it, you could have done MUCh more
00:12 <****> GrimRC, ah~ well, for desktop, i wouldn't even recommend linux, in a way.
00:12 <****> Seivan|: who uses nano...
00:12 <****> go use windows or mac ;P
00:12 <****> so it is 2am that the clocks go back?
00:12 <****> copper it was just an example
00:12 <****> thanks everyone who helped. it was the umask.
00:13 <****> or i it 1am
00:13 <****> I wouldn't use anything but Gentoo
00:13 <****> ktwilight it's more like there are different settings in the dist with different programs
00:13 <****> Seivan|: look, at the end of the day you will make your own mind up - I am just showing the reason for the choice as you asked
00:13 <****> Seivan|, sure, but desktop apps on windows is so much more powderful
00:13 <****> Seivan|: OpenBSD makes for a very nice firewall
00:13 <****> Why is nobody interested supporting with apache modules :D
00:13 <****> Seivan|: go Ubuntu if you feel like it
00:13 <****> Seivan|, though it would still depends on what your needs are.
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