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30 December 2007


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--- Log opened Sun Dec 30 00:00:21 2007
--- Day changed Sun Dec 30 2007
00:00 <****> okay, wow. i think i found out what happend to my kde. for some reason it is now kde4...not 3...that i am logging into under vnc and nx. how do i change that? and for that matter, why did it change to 4 in the first place?
00:00 <****> Sieg_at_war: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html - consider adding the google repo and installing it per yast
00:06 <****> anyway to force kde3 to start at login instead of this broke version of 4?
00:07 <****> ok thanks
00:10 <****> there has to be a way.
00:11 <****> excimer: ask sgt-d, he had the same problem iirc
00:12 <****> will do. you know, looking at my notes from my installs (yea, i take notes, helps in times of need) it seems that conky was the culprit somehow but i just have to find out what it changed.
00:13 <****> excimer: i don't know conqui but perhaps you should give cacti a try instead
00:13 <****> hello can anyone help with setting up a dial-up
00:13 <****> *conky
00:14 <****> right..sure after i fix what conky did...this is retarded. how and application takes over the window manager type i will never understand
00:14 <****> so no one can help me with that
00:15 <****> excimer: i know, i just recreated my account cause comppiz somehow fucked up yakuake. Never found the reason but it runs great with the same settings ...
00:15 <****> !mp3
00:15 <****> For multimedia and other restricted format (MP3,Encrypted DVD, DiVX,etc) issues, see http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats
00:15 <****> dial up..those were the days. when you had to double check to make sure you didnt buy a winmodem..ahh
00:15 <****> ouch
00:15 <****> thekillerplague1: did you have a look at the link i showed you?
00:15 <****> yup dont want to waste my money yet on anything else
00:16 <****> what link
00:16 <****> google?
00:16 <****> thekillerplague1: http://www.davidpashley.com/articles/wvdial-pppd-dod.html
00:17 <****> didnt see that
00:17 <****> brb
00:17 <****> Thanks, bot
00:18 <****> oh dear god...conky WAS the culprit
00:18 <****> when i use yast to uninstall it all these kde4base libs come up...nice
00:18 * redbeard_ is in feeling good because he finally got his DVD burner to work at full speed w/ openSuSE 10.3
00:19 <****> ermm, kdelibs4-core rather
00:20 <****> and we are back
00:21 <****> okay, that was a fun 3 hours
00:21 <****> cacti you said?
00:21 <****> any idea on a s2ram problem oxplained here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343476
00:24 <****> hello
00:25 <****> excimer: http://cacti.net/
00:25 <****> hi i forget how to install tar.bz2 files can someone help me quick ?
00:25 <****>
00:25 <****> To extract them
00:26 <****> god its been awhile
00:26 <****> then what
00:26 <****> cd into the directory, and then (for most)..
00:26 <****> ,/configure
00:26 <****> I mean..
00:26 <****> ./configure
00:27 <****> then make
00:27 <****> then (as root), make install
00:27 <****> any idea on a s2ram problem oxplained here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343476
00:28 <****> may someone please post that link that explains how to play different formats for the various media players, I downloaded them before work, but have yet a chance to get them working
00:28 <****> !restricted @ AnotherNICK
00:28 <****> AnotherNICK: For multimedia and other restricted format (MP3,Encrypted DVD, DiVX,etc) issues, see http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats
00:29 <****> AnotherNICK: Also read this: http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2007/12/packman-lots-of-multimedia-package.html
00:29 <****> SUSEhelp thank you
00:29 <****> bitshuffler - thank you
00:31 <****> the part that sucks is i extracted them but now i cant find the cd directory
00:31 <****> site is down bitshuffler
00:32 <****> AnotherNICK: which site?
00:32 <****>' and look at the output.. the directory should be there
00:32 <****> dev-loki I am reading what it says a little more slowly now - please disregard - I am at work, well supposed to be neway
00:35 <****> redbeard it didnt work
00:37 <****> You have a tar.bz2, and you type 'tar tvjf xxxxx.tar.bz2'... what happens, Joelyn?
00:44 <****> ah, thanks for the link to cacti
00:48 <****> bitshuffler / SUSEhelp thank you - I really appreciate the help
00:49 <****> but i think it is a bit more than i need
00:49 <****> only have one webserver and one local file server up
00:50 <****> excimer: you can slim it down & adapt it to do custom scripts too. Last but not least it's available from oss repo so it's great for the layz :D
00:51 <****> *lazy
00:51 <****> i dont mind compiling lol
00:51 <****> remember what you got from the last try :p ;)
00:51 <****> hey, i compiled that one!
00:51 <****> and no where did it mention kde4
00:52 <****> a the ghost in the machina pattern ;)
00:52 <****> still trying to figure it out in my head.... if i was at the machine the login was fine. remote was messed up. yea. big ghost in the xinetd i guess =)
00:53 <****> seriously: cacti is pretty fine & customizable. To monitor one machine to your hearts content it's great
00:53 <****> i have it in my look-at-me queue
00:53 <****> excimer: or, if you think it is overkill have a look at nagios :D
00:54 <****> nagios i could not get to run
00:54 <****> it's in the repo too iirc
00:55 <****> that got me started looking at other sysmon widgets....the gnome one (didnt want to install a bunch of gnome stuff since i use kde), superkaramba (el diablo digitalis), conky...and here we are
00:55 <****> depends on what you want to do
00:55 <****> desktop widgets are lousy monitors IMO, you need an X to look at it.. quite pointless
00:55 <****> monit is very good at monitoring + taking actions
00:56 <****> 2 things: server load and bandwidth monitoring
00:56 <****> excimer: tried gkrellm ? ;)
00:56 <****> you can also use gkrellm in client/server mode with a gkrellmd daemon on the box you want to monitor
00:56 <****> but same thing, it's graphical
00:56 <****> well its called a monitor because you...monitor it. i dont mind looking at it. that is the point. gkrellm is the gnome one i didnt want to touch
00:56 <****> "monitoring" implies taking actions to me
00:57 <****> that would be acting
00:57 <****> lol
00:57 <****> excimer: it isn't gnome specific in any way, it just uses gtk2
00:57 <****> i know, my gnome standpoint is a moral one
00:57 <****> it isn't gnome, it's gtk2 ;)
00:57 <****> i hate gnome....i hate feet....freaks me out to see it
00:57 <****> i know i know
00:58 <****> because IMO gkrellm is still the better one of the pack
00:58 <****> hrmm
00:58 <****> though conky is quite neat too, I use it on my box
00:58 <****> conky is the one that messed up my vnc/nx


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